Adorama Flashpoint Rovelight 600B

3-30-16

We have now switched all of our lighting system over to the new Cheethastand X system. This is really the best option for Sony users with the built-in transmitter and receiver system capable of TTL and HSS.

1-31-16, Rove light on location with the Sony A7r.

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Update: November 27, 2015 Adorama has updated the included trigger to v2 (free of charge) which is an major improvement over the previous version. The new trigger has an extended operating range and works out to 100 ft.  So I probably will be using my Odin TX/RX to trigger and fire the Rovelight and use the Jinbei triggers to increase/decrease the power levels. I am still going to order a third Rovelight to complete my traveling headshot studio, the light itself is rock solid and the battery just simply last forever…..This new trigger will be included with all new lights that are ordered and Adorama has the light available onsale $399.95 for the Bowens mount!! Flashpoint Rovelight

Update: April 17, 2015

I had the honors of photographing couples at a military ball and I used the Rovelights as my main light source. The event started at 6:00 p.m. to 10:45 p.m. The light power settings were 1/32 and I was at iso 200 shooting with the Sony A7II.  I also used the Odin transmitter and receivers to trigger the lights. The original remote was in my pocket to control the power settings. I do not like the original remote because it will time out after 3.5 minutes of inactivity. The Odin’s allowed me to shoot uninterrupted A couple of behind the scene shots taken by my assistance with the A7s..killeen TX_0151killeen TX_0141

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March 07, 2015

I received my Flashpoint Rovelight 600 from Adorama after a 2 day weather delay this week and the testing begin. I tested this light with the Sony A6000, Sony a7II and my Odin transmitter and receiver for Sony cameras. I grabbed the A6000 and went out to see if I could surpass the camera synch speed. I attached the Sony 70-200 FE lens and bumped the aperture to f4 and shutter speed to the max which is 1/4000 on this particular camera. The Odin TX was on camera and Odin RX was attached to the flash via an generic male/male 3.5mm cable. Yes you can get HSS with the Sony A6000 and the A7II cameras and the Rovelight. It is all manual meaning you have to enable HSS on the transmitter and turn on HSS on back of the light. The remote that came with the light was in pocket to adjust power from 1/16 to 1/1. Interesting that while in HSS mode that the light will revert to 1/16 power. The TX will allow you to surpass the base camera speed however the Odin transmitter will not allow you to make any exposure adjustments. I imagine it’s only there to enable the HSS function. This setup works equally well with the Sony A7II and A7s you can synch all the way to 1/8000 on that particular camera. I will try and share more information over on my google+ page! The A7r unfortunately does not allow HSS….killeen TX_0109killeen TX_0110

Here are some photos of the setup and results:

Setup

Setup

 

F4.0 1/4000 ISO160 Sony A6000

F4.0 1/4000 ISO160
Sony A6000

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Taken w/ the A6000 kit lens 16-50mm f3.5,  1/4000

 

F4.5 1/1600 ISO160 Sony A6000

F3.5 , 1/1600 ISO160
Sony A6000

 

 

My previous setup for on location portrait lighting was the Einstein with the Cyber Commander trigger system. I read about the Flashpoint Rovelight from Adorama.com and was really on the fence about making purchase until I attended Jason Lanier workshop in New Orleans back last month. The Light may be a pound heavier than the Einsteins, probably because of the battery but my main concern was getting rid of the external cables and battery pack and compatibility with my Sony A7II and A7s cameras. The Rovelight 600 really lived up to it’s hype we shot for about 5 straight hours with 10 or so photographers and the light kept purring along with no stoppage. We were using the flash in slave mode since there was only one remote.  The pictures by the fence were actually the Rovelight’s built in modeling light illuminating the subject along with a portable LED light commonly available. Here are a couple photos from a real movie set while we were in New Orleans:

Rovelight RL-600 Ing the included modeling light

Rovelight RL-600
Ing the included modeling light

Rovelight RL-600

Rovelight RL-600, 16-50 kit lens

Rovelight Rl-600

Rovelight RL-600

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Rovelight RL-600

Rovelight RL-600

Rovelight RL-600 LED video light inside booth

Rovelight RL-600

Rovelight RL-600

Rovelight RL-600

Rovelight RL-600

Rovelight RL-600

Rovelight RL-600

Rovelight RL-600

Rovelight RL-600

Rovelight RL-600

  • May 25, 2015 - 1:46 am

    Keano - Hi Rob,
    I was just thinking there is no way to trigger a RL with Nikon Odin because it doesn’t have a HSS option on it like canon does.

  • May 25, 2015 - 8:53 am

    Rob's Photography - Keano, yes not all trigger systems have a dedicated HSS button but you still may be able to obtain HSS by simply placing the camera in manual and slowly increase the shutter speed over the max synch speed. Not all triggers will support the 1/8000 speed and you may start to see the black bar at 1/800. For Nikon the Youngnou 622n will support TTL and HSS with the sb900 so I am guessing it will do the same for the RL, because it supported my Cheetahlights….

  • December 4, 2015 - 5:25 pm

    Chris - Cheers Rob,

    I wanted to confirm that you are achieving HSS via the Phottix Odin triggers made for the Sony / Minolta shoe like you’ve linked above. I’ve heard you may need triggers made for the multi-function shoe, which I can not find anywhere unfortunately.

    If HSS works with the Sony / Minolta mount I’d be stoked.

    TIA.

  • December 4, 2015 - 5:41 pm

    Rob's Photography - Chris,

    Yes this is the trigger that will give you HSS on the Sony A6000, A7II and A7s. The multi function shoe (v2) of the Odin was announced September 2014 and are not available as of yet to purchase. The Pixel King for Sony will also give you HSS! They are hard to find and there was only one or two vendors on Amazon.com that sold them. Bay is another location to consider for purchase…. With either the Odin or PK’s you still would need to purchase the inexpensive adapter for the unit to fit the mirrorless hotshoe.

  • December 17, 2015 - 3:39 pm

    Bien Perez - Hey Rob! Great review! I just purchased my Rovelight 600 after watching one of Jason’s wedding shoot with this light lol. Now my only concern is HSS, I own a Sony A7r and you mentioned that HSS is not compatible? Was there an update or fix to this yet,?I purchased this mainly for the HSS funcionality. Pls help me! Is there any other way? Will the Nissin Air commander be use to trigger this rovelight when it is on slave mode? Thank you so much in advance. Hope to hear from you

  • December 17, 2015 - 3:48 pm

    Rob's Photography - Hello Perez!!

    I have to update the information with the A7r. I was able to get HSS with the A7r using the Odin for Sony TX/RX. Odin has this feature named ODS that you can actually adjust the timing of the synch. When adjusted to +2 the A7r will synch all the way to 1/8000 with no black bar. This is the only camera that I have to adjust. The Odin’s are very hard to find at this point, though. I have heard that some of the local mom and pop stores may have them. The Nissin is an “closed” system and will only work in the slaved mode with manual setting. . The Pixel King for Sony will provide HSS with Sony A7II, A7rII but I do not know about the A7r. I imagine that it will not because of the shutter synch speed.

  • December 17, 2015 - 3:55 pm
  • April 2, 2016 - 12:55 am

    Ash - Hi Rob. Loving the article. I’m having HSS issues with my setup- a6000, correct adaptor, pixel kings for Sony, jingbai 600v strobe with sync cord. I can’t get past 1/160th sync speed(normal max sync), should this setup be a piece of cake & do HSS with no problem or am I missing something? Camera is set to ‘wireless flash’ & strobe is set to HSS. Any help would be appreciated big time as I’m tearing my hair out here. Thankyou in advance.

    Ash, I have heard that problem before with your Pixel Kings. To remedy this problem you may need to go to the Pixel King website and update your firmware. Once you do this, your issue should be corrected.

  • April 2, 2016 - 4:19 am

    Rob's Photography - Ash,
    I have heard that problem before with your Pixel Kings. To remedy this problem you may need to go to the Pixel King website and update your firmware. Once you do this, your issue should be corrected.

  • April 2, 2016 - 2:59 pm

    Ash - Rob, after much messing around i managed to get the firmware upgrade on the Sony pixel kings- I now have HSS on the A6000, Pixel King, Jingbei 600V Strobe. Thank you so much for the direction. Cant wait to get out there with it. Cheers 🙂

  • April 2, 2016 - 3:10 pm

    Rob's Photography - Ash, Great news! Glad that you were able to update and have HSS!!

  • February 18, 2017 - 11:13 am

    Gert-JAN - Can you please tell me wich version you’re using for your Pixel King (and where did you get it). I am trying to get HSS with my Sony A77ii and your methode might work for me too.

  • February 18, 2017 - 12:16 pm

    Rob's Photography - They are the Pixel King for Sony. I agree they are extremely hard to find at the moment. I got them a while back at amazon..

  • February 19, 2017 - 10:44 am

    Gert-Jan - Sorry if have I been unclear. I already have a few sets of Pixel Kings. My question was about the firmware. I have version v1020 and with this HSS is only working up to 1/500s. Above that there is banding. Based on ASH’s post I was hoping that there is a way of getting full use of HSS with the Pixel King.

    Gert,

    Banding occurs on all of my Sony cameras in one stage or another. On the A7II it occurs around the same SS. You may need to turn off e-front shutter and try that. Even at 1/8000 I still get a little banding.

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